How loud is too loud? Springs city leaders are considering ways to ease concerns about noise from traffic congestion by setting limits for it.
Traffic has gotten so bad at the intersection of Academy and Woodmen that the city has plans to put an overpass in there, but people who live nearby are already fed up with the noise and fear an overpass will only make things worse.
Sue Lamb remembers the day when Woodmen was only a dirt road.
"It was peaceful and quiet, there wasn't nearly as much traffic as there is now. When big trucks go by it's very very noisy, you can't talk on the phone out here," Lamb said.
She says about eight years ago, the city installed a retaining wall, but it hasn't done much good.
"I don't think it's done anything for the noise," Lamb said.
And up on Powers, some residents have even more of a problem. The street is pretty much in their backyards.
"It's right here and there's no wall. My wife has to sleep with earplugs," said Brad Tyra.
Roadways like Woodmen and Powers are exactly the reason City Engineer Cam McNair is back in front of city council, giving an update on a plan to control the noise.
"City construction projects, state projects, all of these would be treated in the same way in terms of noise mitigation," McNair said.
Meaning any future development would have to plan for noise protection. McNair says it's an ordinance focused around quality of life.
"Can people enjoy their backyards, their patios and can they get a goodnight sleep without being impacted by traffic," McNair said.
The current state standard for noise is 66 dBA’s and McNair says many places in Colorado Springs are already in the mid to high 60's. The city will vote on this issue in August.