Mike Jones Discusses Book, Haggard
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On a sunny Sunday morning in Denver's Cheesman Park, Mike Jones thumbs through a freshly-printed copy of his book, "I Had to Say Something: The Art of Ted Haggard's Fall." He picks out an excerpt, one of many detailing his alleged relationship with former New Life Church pastor, Ted Haggard-- and reads it out loud.

"I figured out that he (Haggard) lived in Colorado Springs, and that he worked for a church there," read Jones. "I knew he really liked sex toys and methamphetamine. Other than that, he was a mystery."

Jones closes the book and squints into the sunlight, thoughtful about Haggard, the man he says he knew simply as "Art," until he saw him on a religious television show. He says for nearly 3 years, Haggard had been a regular client of his massage business. In 256 pages, Jones details the monthly hour-long sessions he says Haggard paid him for, sessions that he says included sex, drugs and denial.

"After we would finish, he (Haggard) would always have an expression on his face, almost like guilt," said Jones. "He acted like what he was doing was wrong, probably because he had a wife, a family, and worked for the church."

Before deciding to write the book, Jones says he agonized for months over whether or not to go public with his story at all. He says he felt bad for Haggard's family, but ultimately worse for people in his own family: the gay community.

"The book is about more than Ted Haggard," said Jones. "It's about the Evangelical Church, and how they deal with homosexual issues. The problem is, they don't deal with them because they don't want to talk about it."

Jones says Haggard's public condemnation of the homosexual lifestyle is not what drove him to write his book, but rather, what Haggard didn't say in public.

"If he would have come out with the truth right away, he could have worked with the gay community, maybe even kept his job at his church, but that didn't happen," said Jones. "Instead, he twisted it around and brought everything on himself."

Haggard was fired from New Life Church in November. Co-pastor Rob Brendle says the congregation-- which has dwindled about 25 percent since then-- is moving on.

"We've made quite a bit of progress as a family," said Brendle. "Obviously, some of us are in different places along the healing path."

Some New Life members see Jones' book as an unwelcome round 2 of the scandal that rocked their church. Jones sees things differently.

"You know what, I'm going on round 50. Be a gay man and hear all the stuff I've had to listen to all my life. It's more than just round 2 for me."

Jones' book won't be available in most stores until later this month, but can be purchased now on Amazon.com.

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Posted by: Suma Location: Portland, OR on Jul 17, 2007 at 01:53 PM
Mike is a hero! Ted is a hypocrit, plain and simple! It is so sad that Mr. Haggard feels he is sooo evil. Gays/lesbians are not evil. They are people who deserve love, respect, privacy, intimacy and all of the benefits of married heterosexuals. I have been married to the same man for 30 years. Do you mean to tell me if gays can marry that somehow my marriage will be destroyed? If someone can come up with a firm confirmation that gay marriage will destroy the sanctity of marriage then I would like to meet that person! Total hogwash! I believe that Mr. Jones struggled long and hard (it is obvious by the tone of his book, which I just finished) before he came forward with this information. He states that he feels sadness for Mr. Haggard, his family and congregation. I have to say that he is a better person than I, because I think that Mr. Haggard is the evil one and feel no sorrow for him at all. Kudos to you Mike! I wish you all the happiness, love, and serenity that life can give you! You deserve it!

Posted by: Devorah Location: Colorado Springs on Jul 6, 2007 at 04:38 PM
I am disappointed that Mike choose to write a "smut book" about the unnecessary details of personal acts between he and Ted which may or may not have actually happened. The truth is known by God, Ted and Mike alone. What bothers me most is the pain that this book will cause Ted's wife and children. I have known Ted to be one of the kindest men I have known and an awesome leader. I don't care what Ted has or has not done, I love him. I wish he were back here in the Springs, just being the person he is, forgiven, loved and accepted by all.

Posted by: Michael Location: Colorado Springs, CO on Jun 15, 2007 at 08:41 AM
Ted Haggard is gay. He can be a gay Christian. Or a gay dad. But one thing is for sure - he is gay. I wish only the best for him, but gay people who think they are "evil" end up doing ridiculous things like snorting meth and having oral sex with prostitutes all night long. They end up betraying those they love, and they quickly turn into the demons they imagine themselves to be. This is the problem with gay oppression. I'm gay. I have a healthy sex life with a commited partner. I'm active in my community, and in several charities. Gay people have options for happy living. Ted Haggard should have been able to see that years ago. I don't applaud Mike Jones for writing a salacious book, but I applaud him for pointing out the truth.

Posted by: Vern Location: Falcon,CO on Jun 12, 2007 at 12:45 AM
Mike Jones himself said that When he visited New Life in Jan 2007 he was greeted warmly by staff and members alike. As a member myself I wish all of you with your negative comments would come by for a visit and let us all know how it goes. There is this little thing you should know about christians.... We love people no matter what their sins are!!! Why??? because we all have sin in our lives. It's about always trying to not sin the next time. Who decides what sin is? God just read your BIBLE. Yep it's in there!!!

Posted by: Bob Location: San Diego on Jun 10, 2007 at 07:11 PM
I know from personal experience, that Ted Haggard has been, and is still being, punished with, HellFire. The 'struggle' Anthony (first post) mentions is the subject of a song on the "Saturday Night Fever" album, called "Disco Inferno." The 'fire' of sexual passion need not ever go out, as it is a state, not a process that must eventually end, like 'fire' as generally understood. Hence, it meets the definitional prerequisite of HellFire. For me, this HellFire became so hot, just after college graduation, my co-workers sensed the "radiation"! My first job was endangered, and I had to QUENCH. This hit just as "Disco Inferno" and "Saturday Night Fever" was hitting the radio waves. Talk about a Perfect Storm! Praise God, that He forgives. More recently, after seeing MS-NBC's "To Catch A Predator", I now THANK God that I am not afflicted with sexual passion for children, that at least mine is for an eager adult. So when I watch each new episode, it's to the music of "There But For The Grace Of God Go I". After that, I confronted many Christian organizations with the MUCH worse sin of the rampant child sex slave trade. After seeing a TV news special on this, my spirit was utterly screaming, WHERE IS THE BODY OF CHRIST?! My exhortations on this subject have been met with DEAFENING silence from the Christian organizations I have contacted. Talk about "straining at a gnat yet gulping a camel"! Jesus calls this 'Pharasaism'.

Posted by: Anthony Location: Colorado Springs on Jun 6, 2007 at 04:35 AM
I am a gay man living in Colorado Springs and was born and raised here. I see Mike Jones just as bad as an religious organization that has ever damned my lifestyle. He is no better. He did not go public to help the gay community. He went public to help his fame and his wallet. Would any of us have wanted to be 'outed' this way? It disturbs me to think that he can write and book, make money, and gain fame over someone's personal life. Ted Haggard was struggling with himself, like all gay people have at one point, along with that he had the weight of representing our Lord and Savior. Doing both is a hard thing to do and somethign I also struggle with everyday. With understanding,love, and compassion this all could have turned out in a better way. Mike Jones is a horrible representation of the gay community, or movement, and what we represent. I wish more could see this.

Posted by: Cait Location: Seattle on Jun 5, 2007 at 04:15 PM
Haggard was not against the gay community. Liberal Alexandra Pelosi spent plenty of time with him and declares he's not a Hater. I agree with Laura, Ted Haggard is Mike Jones' lottery ticket. Now he pretends to be an expert on Evangelical Christians.

Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 4, 2007 at 03:04 PM
WOW, where can I get a copy of this book?

Posted by: Sue Location: Colorado Springs on Jun 4, 2007 at 02:21 PM
I agree that Mike Jones is capitalizing on this situation. However, I applaud the fact that the hypocrisy of religious organizations is being exposed. All to often members of religious organizations tell people how to live and if the way you live it is not what they believe then you are a sinner! Maybe they should worry more about how they live and less about how other’s live and what they enjoy. Ted Haggard is now public proof of what religious organizations really are...JUDGEMENTAL HIPOCRITS!

Posted by: Laura Location: Peyton on Jun 4, 2007 at 12:31 PM
I hope that NO ONE purchases his book. I do understand that what happened was wrong, but why should this man make money on the book. Is he writting a book about everyother relationship he has had? No it is because he knows he MIGHT make money. Go for round 50, it is only your own fault that you have to do round 50. I totally agree what ted was wrong, but hey the Lord FORGIVES US OF OUR SINS, SHOULDN'T WE FORGIVE HIM?

Posted by: Troy Location: Colorado Springs on Jun 4, 2007 at 12:21 PM
I totally agree with Stephanie and I feel New Life church is pathetic and tasteless and they make tons of money.

Posted by: Michelle Location: Colorado Springs on Jun 4, 2007 at 11:49 AM
I think the idea of this book is disgusting. For Mike to print details of what happened is just as horrible as someone actually wanting to read those details. See it for what it is--a pathetic and tasteless way for Mike to make money from this situation.

Posted by: Me Location: Colorado Springs on Jun 4, 2007 at 11:37 AM
That church's view of the gay community is hypocritical and makes me sick. It's fantastic to see him go for round 50 and have the nation's attention.

Posted by: Stephanie Location: Colorado Springs on Jun 4, 2007 at 11:08 AM
I applaud Mike for his honesty. I don't think it was right at all for Haggard to do what he did. You don't get to denounce a certain group of people and then go do the very thing that you are denouncing. It doesn't work that way. There's is absolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality and I'm saying this as a heterosexual. If you're gay, then you're gay. Big deal. Don't be a hypocrit about it. Congratualtions Mike!

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