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Updated: 11:17 PM Dec 2, 2008
Controversial Billboard About God
Colorado Springs, CO A billboard plastered up at a busy Colorado Springs intersection is sparking up some controversy. Posted: 9:02 PM Dec 2, 2008Reporter: Rosie Barresi Email Address: rbarresi@kktv.com |
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Posted by: Glen
Location: Cospgs
on Dec 4, 2008 at 07:11 AM
What gets me is,if some christian puts up a sign stating their thoughts,they are told to take it down because they have upset the people who dont beleive in GOD! [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: get over it
on Dec 4, 2008 at 06:35 AM
get over yourselves ppl, especially you bible thumpers. If you believe in god, good for you, then that's your business, but don't bash the ppl that don't believe the same stuff that you do. get over yourselves. Religion is something that you choose to BELIEVE....because that's all it is, a BELIEF. don't go baggin on ppl because they don't believe in the same god you do. Mind your own business. What makes you right just because you believe in "god" how are you any different than those who don't? start worrying about your own problems and leave everyone else alone. [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: BJ
Location: C/S
on Dec 4, 2008 at 06:26 AM
Very well said!!!Neighbor,Steve and Robert.... [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: brubaker
on Dec 4, 2008 at 01:43 AM
A match & a bit of gasoline would do wonders... Merry Christmas!!! [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: Your neighbor
Location: Colorado Springs
on Dec 3, 2008 at 10:16 PM
The last line of this story is exactly the reason there should be signs like this. Because religious people are under the misconception that people that don't believe in a creator have a hopeless, unmeaningful dull existence of a life. It helps them feel good about being lead like blind sheep to the collection plate. But infact there is plenty to have faith in.. It's called beliveing in yourself. That you control your destiny and you are responsible for your own actions. Tests done over and over show that a sugar pill and blind belief in anything have the same affect as a belief in god. No more, no less. There are a LOT of people out there who don't believe that go through the motions and even go to church. They know they won't be fitting in the norm with people around them. Just like every other problem with diversity every other minority has had to deal with. It's time to let eveyone know that doesn't believe.. they aren't alone. We are a minority and deserve to be heard. [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: Steve
Location: Vanden-Eykel
on Dec 3, 2008 at 09:14 PM
It's about time. What people fail to understand about Christianity is that it's opposed to every principle that America stands for. Just look at what M. Servitus just said in his comment: that Christianity teaches us to KNEEL before the almighty, and subdue our individuality. America as a nation is based on the idea of standing up for your individuality, not kneeling to authority. Where Americans celebrate freedom, Christians celebrate submission; where decent human beings are motivated by human welfare, Christians are motivated by God's glory. As for Christian morals, the dirty little secret about the Christian concept of morality is that it doesn't actually have one. Christians believe only in obedience, not morality. Ask a Christian why murder is bad -- besides 'because God says so' -- and they can't answer without using the language of humanism. Try it yourself. [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: Robert
Location: PPCC
on Dec 3, 2008 at 05:59 PM
M Servitus, your post is idiotic. There isn't an atheist church because Atheists don't believe in gathering to pray to God. "Because they lack the ability to subdue their individuality". Well, when you say that, it sounds like you say religion is fascism. I happen to like individuality. You know, Nazi Germany had youth groups too. Are you saying religion and fascism and communism and all the other things that try to control people are the same? Wow, that's mean and stupid to say. But, I will agree with one part of your post. Church communities do work, when you only have communities of one religion. Much like the communities in Arizona, Utah, Texas, and oh, I forgot Jonestown. Ask the people that died when they drank the koolaid, if church communities work. Oh, since I am an English major, it is "atheists" not "atheisms", and its atheists "are", not "is". If you are going to bash someone, maybe you should proof read your post better. [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: M Servitus
Location: Colorado Spring
on Dec 3, 2008 at 04:45 PM
If atheisms is so darned popular, where are their churches, their youth groups, their preachers. All the things that make church communities WORK are total and completely missing in Atheist world. Because they lack the ability to subdue their individuality and join with larger groups to glorify god. Until they learn to KNEEL before the almighty, there will never be an Atheist Church in Colorado Springs. [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: Robert
Location: PPCC
on Dec 3, 2008 at 04:35 PM
Drive a couple miles in any direction, and you will probably see a billboard saying the complete opposite. New Life Church has a big poster that says "Heaven Defined". I think that really hurts because how can you define heaven? Heaven is what anyone wants to believe it is. I think we all have our own views of what religion is, and what God is. But to say someone's beliefs or if someone is more moral than another is stupid. Kevin, our country would be twice as sinful? Last time I checked, a lot of religious people (especially in congress) are sinful and hateful. Ask a gay man or gay woman if a religious person isn't hateful. You want to know why people are being killed, are depressed, and are full of hate? This happens when you have one way of thinking, much like the one-way thinking I see a lot of religious extremists doing. We all can individually believe in any different religion, belief, god, or etc we want. I don't believe in the Bible, but if anybody wants to, that's fine with me [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: don
Location: co springs
on Dec 3, 2008 at 03:08 PM
i love it!! that's right Focus on the family. IN YOUR FACE. And you don't have to be religious or a member of any faith. All you have to know, is RIGHT FROM WRONG. If your GOD was so great then why the hell are we in a DEPRESSION. Just doesn't make any sense does it? what is the saying,,,,,,FOCUS ON YOUR OWN FAMILY, LMAO [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: Bev
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
on Dec 3, 2008 at 02:13 PM
There are plenty of billboards by the religious folk. I see no reason why atheists shouldn't have the same right to speak their minds or provoke thought. I think it's refreshing to see a different taken on things! [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: Bob
Location: Kansas City MO
on Dec 3, 2008 at 01:53 PM
We had our own sign here: "Don't believe in god?....You are not alone". It's aroused a few...bp [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: Steve
Location: Colorado Springs
on Dec 3, 2008 at 09:57 AM
To Even and others: Shockingly, it is entirely possible to live a life without gods and yet still possess faith, hope, and something to live for. The trick is to realize that there is no god and that nobody is coming to save us. It's up to you, me, and us to inject our lives with meaning, to give each other hope. Nobody is coming to save us from ourselves--we're each all alone and yet in this thing called "life" together at the same time. Belief in gods and in saviors prevents humanity from moving forward to find real answers to our world's problems. We are all we have, and this understanding, rather than filling me with despair, fills me with a sense of freedom and empowerment, knowing that I CAN make a differnce and am not dependent on the whims of a "jealous" god. [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: db
Location: Colorado Springs
on Dec 3, 2008 at 08:57 AM
Kevin, you have a very reasonable opinion. However, more people have been killed in God's name then for any other reason. [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: Chris
Location: C/S
on Dec 3, 2008 at 08:38 AM
J-- There are some "churchmembers" who may act like they're perfect but I don't think I've ever heard any of them claim to be perfect. Couldn't you come up with something a little more original? [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: JC
Location: Colorado Springs
on Dec 3, 2008 at 08:37 AM
We need less Religion and a whole lot more Jesus - from the way we wage wars, murdering over a million and a half innocent Iraqi people from the way the false church singles out gay people....America needs more Jesus and a WHOLE LOT LESS RELIGION. Kudos to the billboard! Those with "religion" need to have love and respect for ALL humanity. Without that, they are Godless. As I read history, the ONLY people Jesus ever condemned were the religious. So you Jim Dobson followers can put that in your pipe and smoke it. [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: Donna
Location: COS
on Dec 3, 2008 at 08:33 AM
To the person that made the comment about drugs and affairs. First no one said that the people posting the billboard didn't have a right. And where did your "perfect" come from. There was only one perfect, and we all are human. But I personally along with others, are grateful for forgiveness. I'm just sorry you have been given the wrong impression. [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: Shawn
Location: Colorado Springs
on Dec 3, 2008 at 08:32 AM
As a Christian, to imagine a world without religion doesn't bother me; in fact, it might be a good thing. What would bother me is a world without God... a world without a moral compass... a world without love. Religion is not the answer; God is the answer. [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: Kevin
Location: Co Sprgs
on Dec 3, 2008 at 06:55 AM
People can continue ignoreing the oldest doctrine in the world. The more Godless our country becomes the more headlines we have of murder and other crimes. We as a people are so desensitized we don't even care, until it hits us personally. Everyone around me without God is either angry, hateful, addicted to an outer source of some kind, or depressed. It's a fact. We kill innocent children, now we are in awe as the kill their parents.Four disturbing headliines just on this site alone this morning. Our country is on such a rapid decline with so many's people ignoring it eventually you will have no escape but God left.Remember it is all choice. In my 67 years I have never seen such ugliness around me as I do now. Before you all start bashing my "religious fanatic" post, remember, I already said it's your choice. I am just choosing different consequences for my own life. Imagining no religion is imagining twice the sin running amuck as now. Imagine that. [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: Lisa
Location: Colorado Springs
on Dec 3, 2008 at 05:58 AM
I come from SC, from an area known as "The Bible Belt." This billboard is nothing compared to the hundreds of billboards there! America was founded on religion, or at least a belief in God and those of us who do believe have the same rights as those who don't. Without God, there is no hope, no faith, nothing. I'm glad he's on my side. [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: J
Location: C/S
on Dec 3, 2008 at 05:57 AM
But, It's alright to have "Come to our Church" signs up on every corner? Sounds like this is one sided to me. Oh but wait. Churchmembers are perfect. They never take drugs or have Affairs. LOL [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: Kaea
Location: Walsenburg
on Dec 3, 2008 at 05:47 AM
How can that affect anyone who believes? Come on! There are at least two commercials on national TV right now that mention "God's Love Be With You" (a new car commercial) and (paraphrased) "The world needs more of God's love") (Interstate Batteries). They certainly don't bother me. They certainly can make anyone think - and specifically, the billboard doesn't even mention "God", but religion itself - and "God Knows" that organized religion has certainly been responsible in the past (and maybe even today) for some pretty horrid actions! Give it up, people, don't like the billboards? Don't read them. [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: Joe
Location: C/S
on Dec 3, 2008 at 05:37 AM
It has already been proven that divorce rate is lower for athiests,and there children are better adjusted to the world and less violent. [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: db
Location: Colorado Springs
on Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Faith in God and faith in religion are two different things all together. To my knowledge, all religions are founded by human beings. Many of the founders claim God spoke to them. True or not, absolute power can lead to absolute corruption and one can have complete faith in God without the often times corrupt teachings of men and women. [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: Jon
Location: Colo Springs
on Dec 2, 2008 at 10:52 PM
"With-out religion it doesn't give you any hope, any faith, anything to live for," said Even. That's the opinion of someone who doesn't know any different. Most people brought up with regligion can't imagine life without it. But to those who've never experienced it, life is just fine without it and we don't miss it. And we live life to the fullest for what the rewards it brings us now. [ Report Abuse ]
Posted by: Tab
Location: Colorado Springs
on Dec 2, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Three cheers! As was very wisely said decades ago... "Imagine" Throughout history, religion has been responsible for almost all wars and has motivated murderers. Christians, Muslims, Jews or whatever. It is obviously easier to kill for a god. The news said that we non-religious people are a minority, and that is a sad truth. It is sad that those of us who do not believe in blind faith in that that defies scientific and historical facts are a minority. Thomas Jefferson thought that devision of church and state was a moot point, because increased intellect would make it obvious that there is no god. He over estimated you! You all keep killing each other for your gods. Keep waring and in the name of righteousness. You are all barbarians! Me, I don't need a god to make me have a conscience. I don't have a reason to kill someone because they are different from me. From the beginning of recorded history, religious people have killed people who disagreed with them. Wake up [ Report Abuse ] |
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Great postings here– It never ceases to amaze me of the delusions of religious people– but thats their choice– I just wish they'd keep their morals and beliefs to themselves– And while we at it– can we get "In God We Trust" off our money for once and for all? Now THATS offensive to me! I welcome this billboard. Long live free speech!
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I'd rather imagine a world without Atheists. I am offended by the billboards and I'm sorry my children have to see them when we drive to town - which is less and less everyday.
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I am a native of colorado springs... It hurts me to see things like this, because I look at pikes peak everyday and thank GOD for my life, zlong with me husband's, kids and for the beauty he has created for all of us to enjoy...
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Martinez, civilization was not founded on religion. Even back in the polytheistic days, the ideas of God(s) and "religion" were created by people to explain the unexplained.
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Thank you Martinez, well put!
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Steve, your take on Christianity being on the way out is so far off. I have no idea where you are getting that from. Your point on forcing kids to pray is a little crazy too. Kids should not be forced to pray. But, prayer is critical to a Christian. Being a Christian is a relationship with Jesus Christ. As with any relationship, if you do not communicate, it will eventually decline. Christianity has always been under attack, and it is clearly stated in the Bible to expect it. I don't understand why people are so afraid to come to faith in God. I would probably not be here today if not for my faith. I have been on both sides of the fence, with and without God. I would rather be on His side of the fence without a doubt. Instead of bashing your maker, truly seek Him and yes, question everything you learn and make sure it lines up with what the Bible says. I am not threatened by this sign, and anyone secure in their faith should not be either.
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I'm amazed with all the misconceptions the athiest side is throwing at the Christian side. Where do you get your info that we preach hate and intolerance? Do not judge all religous people on the panderings of a few radicals and frauds. You should learn about us before you accuse us of spouting hate and fear, because you are doing that very thing right now. We Christians are tolerant people, we are forgiving and loving. We contribute more to charity and education than any other group in this country, including our own Government. If that were not the case, we wouldn't tolerate "Seasons greetings" being said in our malls. or the ramblings of people like you. Learn your history, and you will learn that only when a government declares a religion over another is when religous wars start. We don't force you to go to church, or pray with us, but don't expect us to not pray for you. And remember, civilization was founded on religion.
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Glen, you're either a liar or an idiot. Christians put up signs stating their thoughts all the time and nobody tells them to take them down. What Christians aren't allowed to do is use GOVERNMENT MONEY (which belongs to everybody equally) to promote their own particular religion. If anybody doubts that Christianity is on the way out, consider that even Christians don't really believe in it anymore. Christians actually believe that they can't survive unless the government props them up. "We need to force kids to pray or their faith will slip away." Christians are like the Big Three car companies, going to Congress, hat in hand, looking for a handout. Well, if they can't compete, then they deserve to end up on history's scrap-pile.
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All of the hatred here is very sad. It is sad that so many have a twisted view of what a Christian is. Unfortunately many are hypocrits, just as there are people of any belief or non belief that are hypocrits. Have you noticed the sign says "religion"? This could be islam, hindu, etc. Our true Christian God does give us freedom. It is our choice whether we worship Him or not. For those that do not want to that is your choice. Many have been hurt by religion and on behalf of everyone who has ever hurt anyone, I am sorry. That is man who hurt you, not God. God has changed my life for the good. Yes there are difficult times and that is part of life. I want to be authentic as possible and not be fake about my faith. I understand the challenges of life, the recession, etc. We are given a free will and that is why bad things happen because humans are not perfect and make bad decisions. Please stop the hatred on this post or take it down.
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Mother Earth is all that matters.
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what this really comes down to is this: Jesus said not to judge or you will be judged! I believe, but do not shove my beliefs on others. Secondly, all the right wingers are afraid their perfect children might see this billboard and ask questions!! If their faith is so strong they would not be questioning that billboard.
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WOW! Such passion on both sides. I have friends of all faiths, beliefs and "religions". I love them all. I happen to believe in God, but would never presume to tell anyone what they should or should not do where their spirituality is concerned. Yes, it is the hard cold truth that a difference in religious opinions cause war. And the sad thing is that who is really right? No one knows. It's a matter of belief, just as "get over it" states. So, why is it so hard to let people believe whatever they want instead of trying to change them to what you believe? Because its easier to love them...among other reasons. But if you keep your heart open, you would be surprised what you get from others. One of the best friends I have is an Atheist. I thank God for blessing me with friends like that. I also thank God they tolerate me!! LOL
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Jesus was a salesman...keep waiting for the 2nd coming? Then spread more hate, dicatatorship, and intolerance until he arrives. Anyone interested in a 3rd coming in case the 2nd does not meet expectations?
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i'll die before i kneel before anyone or anything.Take your damm bible and stick it where the sun doesn't shine (M SERVITUS)
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hey...what ever happened to freedom of religion people???? It doesn't matter what you do or don't believe in but it is a given right by the constitution. THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND FREEDOM OF RELIGION. Whatever you choose to believe in, that is your buisness, but don't talk about others because what they believe in doesn't fit into the "norm" Stop being hypocrits.
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