Hickenlooper Wants To Abolish CSAPs

By: Associated Press
By: Associated Press

Democratic gubernatorial candidate John Hickenlooper says he'll eliminate the current Colorado student achievement tests to save money and get quicker results that will help students.

The CSAP testing program costs the state about $18 million a year.

Hickenlooper proposed the idea Monday as he unveiled his education policy at Arapahoe Community College in Littleton.

He also promised to close the achievement gap for Hispanic students. They have a 50 percent dropout rate compared with 75 percent for other students.

As mayor of Denver, Hickenlooper started a preschool program financed by a sales tax increase.

Hickenlooper is promising not to raise taxes for education if elected governor, saying taxpayers have no appetite for it.

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  • by chu-chu Location: springs on Sep 19, 2010 at 07:24 PM
    i believe we should save more money for nthe community so no csap
  • by Bert Location: West Side on Sep 1, 2010 at 04:27 PM
    How dare you Jim.! A parent held responsible for their kids "no way" they did the breeding part and collect the wellfare part isnt that enough. Plus we underpay the teachers and then wonder why none of the good ones will stay late and work harder. You sir obviously have high morals and good standards none of which are tollerated by todays society. We dont need goals for kids they just need to know how to use a lighter and sign for a check, even the DMV will allow them to maneuver a 3500lb missle around the streets, and you want responsibility. Let me know when you find it!
  • by Jim Location: Springs on Aug 31, 2010 at 06:30 AM
    Well said Bob, at least people know that testing is important. But not the end all, be all of a students knowledge or a teachers effort or ability. I also think its time we look at factors outside of the school like a students home life. If there is some sort of accountability for teachers and students, there should be an evaluation method for parents as well. Teachers aren't responsible for raising the children.
  • by Bob Location: Colorado Springs on Aug 31, 2010 at 05:50 AM
    I am not familiar with the CSAP tests, buy even when I was in school, a very long time ago, we had to take achievement tests. These tests were about what we STUDENTS had learned, not so much about what the teachers had accomplished on individuals. I can see where if the entire class is below what is expected of them, the teacher may be at some level of fault, but trying to get an entire class to achieve learning at an identical, high level would be more difficult than trying to herd ducks. No two individual children are capable or desire to learn at a given level. Other factors come into play as well, home environment and peer pressure for example are big factors on how a student does. Then with the cirriculum geared mainly towards college prep, many of those students who score lower or drop out could be kept in school if vo-tech prep and classes were still available. Not everyone wants to be or can be an MA or Ph.D. Some form of achievement testing is necessary.
  • by Mary Location: C/S on Aug 30, 2010 at 08:16 PM
    CSAP's are a waste of resources and time. When my son went to 1st grade, they tried to hold him to kindergarten when I explained he was having difficulty with my husband's deployment. They didn't believe in his ability because he didn't do well on some standard tests and pre-tests. He was hospitalized and diagnosed bi-polar. When he went in, in December, he had barely passed any testing. He came back in January and tested benchmark by the end of the year. When he didn't pass "reading comprehension" for his inability to recall a short story a day later, they wanted to flunk him because he would not do well on CSAP's in that area. Part of his thought disorder he has as well affects longer term recollection to a T. He tested, in 4 months time, but the school was so afraid of that stupid test, they would rather hold a child back who has excelled in half the time as other students for one area of one test.
  • by Anonymous on Aug 30, 2010 at 07:46 PM
    @Wendy: you know you can opt your kids out of CSAP.
  • by Jennie Location: Colorado Springs on Aug 30, 2010 at 05:41 PM
    My concern with the CSAP is that everyone is accountable but the student. What happens if the student does poorly? Nothing, except maybe a teacher has to answer for it. Why does the student have NO accountability. Any test that eliminates all responsibility for the test-taker can't be a good test!
  • by RL Location: COS on Aug 30, 2010 at 05:37 PM
    Wendy... you do realize that if you have children that they do not HAVE to take the CSAP tests. EVER. You can opt them out by simply writing a letter to the school and district. In fact, you can find examples of such letters (which I use EVERY year) at thecbe.org
  • by a parent on Aug 30, 2010 at 04:29 PM
    Excellent idea...too much time is wasted in schools getting kids ready for the CSAP, and they take it every single year. When I was growing up under the old CTBS, the previous standardized test used in Colorado, we only took it every other year. It was a sufficient measure then to have the "odd" years in school take it, we certainly don't need it every year now. I wouldn't mind them so much if it was every other year. Plus, in elementary school my kids also took two other standardized tests every year...there was little time to do anything but prepare to test and test. Finish one, start prepping for the next. It is completely ridiculous.
  • by Wendy on Aug 30, 2010 at 03:58 PM
    I am SICK of CSAP i have been every since it started. You hear about it for a month prior and every day during. Feed your kids breakfast, make sure they get sleep...blah blah blah but the schools could care less if it is an everyday test or act/sat test that actually count for the children! I HATE CSAP!!
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