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Updated: 7:17 AM Jul 18, 2008
Army Only Wants 100,000 More Acres At Pinon Canyon
The Army calls it a compromise. Some residents believe it's a step closer to losing their land. Military officials scaled back a requested expansion of the Pinon Canyon Maneuver site from more than 400,000 acres to 100,000 acres.
To read official statements from the Army and from Senator Salazar, click on Full Story. Posted: 1:20 PM Jul 17, 2008Reporter: KKTV/Associated Press |
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To Angie in Colorado Springs - Before posting comments you should become familiar with the subject that you are speaking about! Yes, friends AND family were raped and pillaged by the army's land grab in the 80's to form Pinon Canyon Base. As far as buying them out, the army offered pennies on the dollar for ranches that had been owned by families for generations, and could not be replaced with the amount the army paid them. And there HAS been a poll taken and there are NO WILLING SELLERS!! I have friends that are currently serving in Iraq, I am very supportive of our troops, but I don't believe in taking land and livelihoods away from American citizens when there are other alternatives. Many of the impacted landowners have actually served in the military, or have family members that are currently serving. The people of southern Colorado are some of the most patriotic citizens in existence, but that doesn't mean that they need to be taken advantage of by our own government.
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I am a military wife whose husband spent 21 years in the service. I understand the people not wanting to sell thier homes. And I understand the military needing more land. But complaining about it isnt doing anyone any good. Now I don't agree with the governments way, in fact I have grown to hate the government, but I am not thinking of them, I am thinking of my husband and his fellow soldiers that risk their lives and work 365 days a year for my freedom to write this message. I just wish people would understand it is higher up then the men and women over seas, and that the people SPITTING on our soliders when they go down to Pinon needs to stop. It is not thier fault. If you don't want them to take your land, start petitions, make signs do what you have to do but leave our soldiers out of it, otherwise you join and walk a mile in their shoes.
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L-get a clue. Who do you think supports the military! Uncle Sam if the military left we would go back to being a nice place to raise our children. The biggest to suffer a loss would be the used car dealers!
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To: Elaine Location: Denver, CO, Did you happen to read the story "Military Helping Pikes Peak Region's Economy" And the land isn't just being taken, they are buying them out. Did you happen to take a poll there to find out that there are no willing sellers? "The people of southern Colorado have already been raped and pillaged by their own Army in the 80's." were you one of them?
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I agree with Me..You all are greedy and clueless to what it takes to train the soldiers..get off your couch's and join..then see that yes. a little land DOES help. and for the fires? last I knew the MILIARTY has helped with ALL US disasters..even to the un grateful's.the miliatry doesnt choose who to help.they just do. How much money have ANY of you given to Help? seems yet again the Military is paying big money to the economy as well.
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Here's a thought. Close down Ft. Carson, Schriever, Cheyenne Mountain and Peterson then watch this place deteriorate.
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I don't think 100,000 acres of land is going to give our soldiers the body armor, the armor plates for humvees, and the technology they need. Last time I checked, firing off a cannon into the middle of no where is not the proper training for urban combat. I am all fore for giving whatever our soliders need, but what they need is not 100,000 acres of grassland. They need to build a proper facilty for urban combat training.
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...okay, everyone is complaining. but we wonder why our soldiers r dying from not being trained completely, because people keep COMPLAINING about the little bit of sacrifice we must give. OUR SOLDIERS SACRIFICE THEIR LIVES and we can't sacrifice just a little bit of land for THEIR BENEFIT! Quit complaining people!!!
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Sorry, but they go straight down I-25 to the site, tear up the land, start fires and they DO NOT spend a dime!! The reason for the fighting is they are wanting to take our home, our livelihood, our family heritage, and our way of life and our future.
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When Pinon Canyon was formed in the 80's from land seized through emminent domain the Army solemnly promised the American citizens in southern Colorado that no more land would be taken from them for that site. They also promised that the economy in southern Colorado would benefit from the Army's presence there. Both promises have been broken completely. The Army is now back for more land. They say there are willing sellers, but no one steps forward to prove that. The people of southern Colorado are being attacked by the very Army that was formed to protect them. Experts have spoken out that today's types of warfare do NOT require large parcels of land to train on. The people of southern Colorado have already been raped and pillaged by their own Army in the 80's. Are we going to stand by and watch it happen again? Get your facts straight before you speak, AMAZED! No proof of need has been given for expansion, and the Army has proven themselves to be liars time and time again.
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No more should be given to Ft.Carson. Enough is enough!
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I am still reeling from all the COMPLIANts and snide comments about the ARMY wanting/needing more land.no one complains when the soldier/ family members send all their money in the surrounding community's.wether it be shopping,rent or having family come vacation here..I guess its ok to get just not to give? I have never heard so much complaining from communties surrounding a post/base. The Miliatry use's ALL local contractors for all the up do's..I would like to see them not take our money either...
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