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Recorded Conversation Reveals Damning Evidence Against Substitute Teacher Save Email Print
Posted: 3:09 PM Feb 19, 2008
 Last Updated: 3:05 PM Feb 26, 2008
 Reporter: McKenzie Martin
Email Address: mmartin@kktv11news.com
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An arrest affidavit obtained by 11 News reveals disturbing details about what a District 11 substitute teacher allegedly asked a student to do in a recorded phone conversation.

Documents say 73-year-old Lloyd Clark offered a 15-year-old boy as much as $5,000 to perform sexual acts. The first incident allegedly happened in a classroom at Wasson High School last Thursday. The student immediately contacted the school resource officer.

According to the arrest affidavit, detectives then set up a recorded phone conversation between the alleged victim and Clark. In the conversation, a detective says Clark reiterated the agreement he allegedly made with the student earlier that day.

A former Doherty student, Caitlin Krzywonski says she doesn't believe any of it. She says she had Mr. Clark, he sub they all called Gramps several times as a freshman at Doherty High School.

"Everybody loved him, if you had a sub you wanted Gramps," Caitlin said.

Caitlin believes it was all just a misunderstanding.

"I think even if he did say something in a conversation it was not meant to be taken seriously, that's not the kind of man he was," she said.

Clark was arrested Thursday afternoon at his Colorado Springs home. He posted a $10,000 bond and was released from the Criminal Justice Center early Friday morning.

He faces a felony charge of solicitation for child prostitution. Clark is expected to be advised of his charges in court on Wednesday.
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Posted by: nina Location: c/s on Feb 29, 2008 at 12:33 AM
wow people! Is this horrible or what! We have people making this PREDATOR into a victim of sorts because he is a nice guy! And at the same time the victim in this whole thing is being made to look like a monster because HE DID THE RIGHT THING!! What is going on here!?!? He couldn't have done it because he's a 'nice guy'??!!! That is crazy! No offense but really, cmon.... To the victim; dude you so did the right thing. What you did took alot of courage and it was and IS the correct thing to do. This man has problems that finally are brought to light. Who knows how many people you have saved from this mans WRONG actions. You are very much a hero and if I could thank you personally I would. You also opened the door for other victims who unfortuneatly didn't have the courage or didn't know what to do in such a heinious situation. I'll just end by saying Thank You for doing the right thing. Thank you also to your parents... they'll know why.
Posted by: tennis partner Location: WHS on Feb 25, 2008 at 01:27 PM
I do believe you and I am on your side. It is great that you are out there raising awareness that this can happen to anyone. And I think you are one of the bravest people I know. Because coming out and saying something that other people will end up hating you for is admirable. And I admire you!!! Thanks for keeping this guy from doing it to anyone else.
Posted by: Adriana Location: Colorado on Feb 23, 2008 at 09:38 PM
Ok so I had Graps as a sub. too and I hate all tese stupid people getting all mad about he victim coming forward! Yea Gramps was a cool sub but all the evidence proves that he is guilty! and all i can say is that the victim is really brave! I totally believe he did the right thing! so THANK YOU!
Posted by: Victim Location: Home on Feb 23, 2008 at 09:13 PM
Wow...Im surprised they posted my last comment, but im very happy it sparked the conversation that it has. I would like to get the word out about this but im not quite sure how.If I could possibly get some WHS students to get on my side and actually beleive me it would be easier. They all think im lying because they liked him. But you read the article, we had a taped conversation, which I beleive might be released soon. He abviously did it and I would like to raise awareness that this can happen to anyone. I know its hard to believe that im actually the person this happened to but if you will just trust.
Posted by: I can't believe this Location: colorado springs on Feb 23, 2008 at 04:13 PM
This is so sad! I had 'gramps' many times and would NEVER expect this. He was my favorite sub. I truly hope that if this is the truth that Gramps gets help, if it just some made up story then that kid did something that is going to change a life and in a bad way. On the other hand, if there is a phone conversation of gramps saying this, then I have no argument. It is just really sad to me. Be careful out there.
Posted by: not sure what to believe.... Location: c springs on Feb 23, 2008 at 03:47 PM
I agree! Like I said before its the people that you would least expect to do it that do!
Posted by: Me Location: cs on Feb 22, 2008 at 10:07 PM
This is ridiculous! The victim who wrote--highly, highly impressive. But, all of you people who actually think that such a great guy couldn't have done that--SPARE ME. I suppose the fire chief of a town I will not name didn't abuse me as a 3 year old because who could even imagine that a fire chief would do that. If we could pick out sexually abusive people in a crowd, then why would we have them. Wise up, it's not rocket science. You should be deeply ashamed of yourselves.
Posted by: not sure what to believe..... Location: c springs on Feb 22, 2008 at 09:37 AM
wow im happy that the victim had the guts to write....its too bad that he did take advantage of the fact that he was such a trusted person, it just proves that ANYONE can be a sexual preditor! Keep it up victim and dont be ashamed or scared to speak up either cause u did the right thing!
Posted by: Victim Location: Home on Feb 21, 2008 at 04:54 PM
Ok....Ive been wondering whether to post this or not...this happened to me. This is the victim...I am not saying who I am for legal reasons...You say he couldnt do this, he can, he did, I had to sit on the phone with him for 30 some odd minutes reliving what had happened just a couple hours before. Ok, yes I feel guilty for putting a 73 year old "senile" man in such a predicament, but what he did is wrong and he needs to be reprimanded for his actions. And to my knowledge more and more students are coming forward saying he did the same thing to them....but they were too afraid to come forward. I dont like to be consedered a hero, but I would like to say that I did the right thing and people should stop saying he didnt do it for the simple fact that you dont know...You said you liked him...couldnt that have been a ploy for you to be lured into his trap. As far as Im concerned he's a pro at this and needs to get help.
Posted by: not sure what to believe.... Location: c springs on Feb 21, 2008 at 10:29 AM
I had gramps as a sub too many times to count and i wouldve never thought he would do something like this! I personally cant see him doing that but Who knows maybe he did do it, you never know, its the people you least expect that would do things like this...i hope justice is brought and if he did do it then he should for sure get in trouble but if he didnt and this kid is lying then thats messed up and he should get in trouble also....i hope we find out the truth!
Posted by: Jack Location: Security on Feb 21, 2008 at 09:15 AM
WOW! How can you actually defend a CHILD MOLESTER!?!?!? How many other children has this sicko abused over his 70 plus years? If he is so bold about it now, I can only imagine how comfortable he is doing it. I agree with witness, these people make it a point to have everyone trust them so they can get to your kids without suspision. I'm not buying the sweet innocent old man routine, hes a dirty old man, and a liar. If he is recorded saying do *** to my*** and I will give you $5000, that is what it is. no misunderstanding.
Posted by: Wasson Location: High School on Feb 21, 2008 at 06:28 AM
Everyone is so quick so say "gramps" didn't do this, the fact of the matter is, what if he did? There is that chance he did it, and if they had a recored phone conversation with him and the boy and he said his offer again, how innocent is he? Get over whether or not he's not the person to do it, he did it, and the boy who stood up, good for him, he's brave for doing it. I've had him as a sub before just like many of you and I liked him, but people can seem different then who they actually are. Get over it, he's already been caught on phone.
Posted by: witness on Feb 20, 2008 at 06:48 PM
"Gramps" is sick! He is not the victim here! I am so angry no one considers the person(s)this happened to. I understand people like him...that is how he gained trust. It was not a misunderstanding! cut & dry to the point! At best he has an illness but innocent ....absolutely not! When something like this happens, the victim should not be persecuted, called a liar...you dont know! let the evidence come out. I feel the person(s) is a hero!~ they had the guts to stand up & say this is wrong. I am sick this person has to read all of the negative comments while dealing with this sick issue.
Posted by: Jason Location: Colorado Springs on Feb 20, 2008 at 04:51 PM
Gramps would never do such a thing. I've had him as a sub many times before and he's simply not that kind of person.
Posted by: ayla Location: Cogswell on Feb 20, 2008 at 12:34 PM
this is absolutely outrageous and disgusting to me. That some young kid thinks he is going to get away with ruining Gramps' life... unfortunate fact of the matter is, whether Gramps is convicted or not, his life and record are ruined now. I hope this kid realizes what he has done, and if i could speak my mind i would give my opinion of the kid, but i will not do so. I dont' think he had any idea what kind of man he has just smashed like a pancake on the highway.... thanks kid.
Posted by: Bill from Boston Location: Fountain on Feb 20, 2008 at 09:00 AM
This story is very unfortunate. I guess I don't understand "everybody loved him", "it was all just a misunderstanding", and incredibly, "it was not meant to be taken seriously" ...?? I feel it's important to be supportive yet we should be realistic and have the responsibility fall where it belongs, especially if there is significant data resulting in an actual arrest. If you listen and see what's going on in the world today, ANYONE can be deceitful, dishonest, and even kill ...even tho no one would have thought they were capable of doing so.
Posted by: Parent Location: CS on Feb 19, 2008 at 07:37 PM
My heart goes out to all of the students that believed in this teacher. I hope the students do not stop trusting the honorable educators.
 
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